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CarolFresia's picture

Week 1: Both these photos were shown in an article Threads recently featured on creative ways to felt wool jersey. How does seeing a technique demonstrated on both a child’s and adult’s garment affect the appeal of the technique?

  • Makes the technique more appealing
  • Makes the technique less appealing
  • Has no effect on the appeal of the technique
  • Seeing only the child’s garment would make the technique less appealing

You will not be able to change your vote.

CarolFresia's picture

(post #31232, reply #1 of 54)

Welcome to "Talk with us." I just returned from the sewing expo in Puyallup, Washington, and had hoped to see some discussion here...but I wanted to point out that, due to the constraints of the forum format, we can't post the photos referred to in the poll questions as actual images. If you read the question, then scroll down, you'll find two attachments you can open up to view the pictures. I'm afraid that those of you who are happening onto this discussion from within Gatherings (rather than from the Threads home page) will not realize that the pictures are even there--and be quite confused by the question!


How do you all feel about seeing children's garments in the magazine? Until the past year or two, we had moved away from showing examples of techniques on kids' clothes, but knowing that many of our readers sew for the younger set, it seemed like a good idea to bring back some children's things.


Personally, I sew for my 3-year-old daughter and, less frequently, my 7-year-old son, but much of my sewing for them has been "survival" style: whipping up 8 t-shirts and coordinating shorts in a weekend, for example. I love seeing the special garments our authors make, and thinking about putting a little extra time to make my own kids' clothes unique. I figure this is one way to raise good, Threads-reading people--by getting them interested in clothing as a way of expressing themselves early on. I just wish I had a little more time to do all the sewing!


Carol


 

ediebell's picture

(post #31232, reply #2 of 54)

Oh - I thought we were just supposed to vote!
I think the child's jacket shown is very cute and I do sew for my kids (though not nearly as much as for myself), but personally I prefer to see items for adults. I think it's because there are so many cute inspirations for kids' things out there that I know I could knock off, whether I learn the techniques in Threads or elsewhere, and I think a special technique/trick/method like the felting would be done differently on an adult item than a childs (as shown by the photos and articles  you've had on this), I really don't want to use my Threads $ to learn to do kids stuff.  Hope I haven't offended anyone!  Just my preference....

CarolFresia's picture

(post #31232, reply #3 of 54)

Hi, Ediebell,


I suspected that the layout of the poll and the discussion made it unclear that we'd love to hear our respondants' opinions about the topic of the poll--or about any other topic related to Threads' content and presentation. We appreciate hearing what you think about the magazine and, no, you haven't offended us!


We conduct surveys with each issue we publish about our readers' preferences in subjects covered, garments shown, etc., etc., but those tend to be mostly multiple-choice-type questions. We've set up this online discussion for the next 2 months to give you all an opportunity to tell us what you think at more length--nuanced explanations of your opinions will be helpful to us in our future planning.


Thanks,


carol

karenw's picture

(post #31232, reply #5 of 54)

I'd thought we were just supposed to vote as well!
Personally I'd prefer  to see just the adult garments.  Perhaps suggestions could be made in text as to how to incorporate techniques into children's clothes.  While I do some sewing for my kids, I'm inclined to put more design/special technique into my own garments (ya never know if it's going to be a hit or a time burner with the kids' stuff!).  There are so few inspirational sources for trendy yet classy, uniquely designed garments for women to make that I savor every inch of page space dedicated to that, and like others, can find other sources for children's items.  It may be interesting to know how much of the time spent sewing is for kids vs. adults of those readers who do sew for kids, and whether it's for production type stuff (I'm thinking when I have a "boxerthon" making boxers for my son, or pajamas) vs. unique wearables or special occasion wear.


Karen

FitnessNut's picture

(post #31232, reply #4 of 54)

Hi, Carol. Since you asked, I don't sew for children anymore. My two are well into their teens (boys) and wouldn't dare be seen in something Mom had made, regardless of the fact that many people pay her good money to design and sew for them. As the previous writer stated so well, most ideas for kids' clothes are fairly easy to replicate for the imaginative home sewer. I don't object to seeing techniques illustrated on children's clothes (or men's for that matter), but I am primarily interested in learning new and innovative methods for women's wear.

FYI, I'm glad that Threads is asking for our opinions. I know that your readers encompass skill levels all over the spectrum.....I was a reasonably inexperienced sewist when I started reading the magazine many years ago and have learned so much from it. I just don't want to see Threads "dumbed down"....there really isn't that much out there that addresses the needs of those at an advanced level.

Sandy

Follow your bliss ~~ Joseph Campbell
SEWSERIOU1's picture

(post #31232, reply #6 of 54)

Although I sew for my DGD and 2 DDs, one of whom is still home, I prefer seeing adult clothing.  It is sew easy to come up with ideas for kid's clothing and there is a plethora of "kids fabric" out there.  As for teenagers, they like 'trendy' stuff and are therefore hard to sew for IMHO (having now sewn for 2) mainly because their tastes seem to change from day to day. 


I sew mostly basics for DGD and mostly special occasion stuff for both DDs.  I also would not like to see Threads "dumbed down".  There is enough of that stuff out there already.  I am striving to improve my sewing skills to couture (or at least a very advanced) level and Threads is a great resource for that.  I appreciate the fact that there is usually something in the magazine that is specifically for beginniners, although I don't want to see more than there already is.  I also teach sewing and recommend the magazine to my students who are really serious about learning to sew. 

sueb115's picture

(post #31232, reply #8 of 54)

I've been a threads subscriber for many years.  I don't have kids so I'm personally not interested in things I can do to embelish kids clothing however I'm very interested in general techniques associated with the embelishment ideas that I could translate to either an adult garment or accessory.  I don't do much garment sewing these days as most of my sewing is related to home dec, accessory sewing, art quilting and textile and surface design but still count Threads among my first reference materials for learning a new technique or idea that I can expand on and incorporate into the type of sewing that I do. 


sueb


www.sueboriginals.com

rfresia's picture

(post #31232, reply #7 of 54)

This discussion seems to be falling into two different groups: "We don't want to put a lot of effort into children's clothing" and "Give us sophisticated techniques".  That certainly presents you editors with problems, I should think.  If a faithful reader has been sewing for 15 or 20 years, they've seen most of the major things one needs to produce good work.  How you can revamp and expand those subjects can't be an easy task.  But I like to see an occasional child in the magazine, even if the article is not about children's clothing, but about a technique.     rjf  


 

 

CarolFresia's picture

(post #31232, reply #9 of 54)

It sounds as if most of you would rather have us focus on garments that might be something you'd like to wear, and that your most creative sewing is primarily for yourselves. I'm delighted that you all seem enthusiastic about learning new, sophisticated techniques. What do you think about the skill level that's assumed in the magazine? Advanced sewers seem to find the content very manageable, but how about beginning/intermediate/rusty sewers? We make a great effort to present the material in a way that's accessible even to less experienced sewers, but we'd love to hear whether you think this is working.


One reason to show children's clothes is to demonstrate a technique on a smaller scale. For example, we did an article on making combined piping and bias binding, and showed this as a trim/edge finish on a little girl's velveteen jacket. A small kid's garment is a great place to test a technique like that, see if you like the way it works on a particular fabric, and then you can adapt it for your own clothes.


Incidentally, rjf has reason to say she likes seeing the occasional child in the magazine--sometimes it's her granddaughter modeling the clothes!


Carol

SisterT's picture

(post #31232, reply #10 of 54)

Ahhhh! The truth come out!


I started to subscribe the Threads when I had absolutely no time to sew.  It was a gift from my community (they have a vested interest in my sanity) and I have read every issue from cover to cover, fascinated by what people are doing.  It gave my imagination a good break.


I would consider myself to be a rusty sewer who never got past the basics, but now that I am finding more time to sew it is easy for me to apply the techniques that I see and I find that I have learned a lot just from the reading I did for fun.


The instructions are clear and the photos that accompany them, so that we can see what it is "supposed" to look like, help an awful lot.


And the occasional photo of rjf's grandchild is fine with me!  :)


Sr. Tracey

CarolFresia's picture

(post #31232, reply #11 of 54)

Well, three cheers for your community! I know there are women out there who receive a Threads subscription as an annual gift from their spouses...probably on the "A happy wife is a happy life" principle. My parents used to give me Threads for Christmas--now that's reversed, and they have to read it, like it or not!!


I agree with you that simply reading about sewing can make quite a difference in your willingness to try new things. When I got back into sewing after many years away from it, and discovered that there were loads of books out there (in addition to Threads), I became a real sewing book junkie. I still am, although my library is pretty full these days, and of course I have the use of the Threads library. And while there are plenty of techniques I haven't tried yet, I know just where to find the directions that make the most sense to me. As we all know, there's more than one way to do just about anything, so we don't hestitate to cover the same topic (say, welt pockets, inserting a zipper, installing an elastic waistband) more than once, if we can provide a new approach that might work better for someone.


This is a good opportunity for you all to suggest topics that you'd like to see covered. I can't promise that we'll do them right away, but we always want to know what you're interested in reading about.


Carol 

FitnessNut's picture

(post #31232, reply #12 of 54)

Oh, boy! What an invitation....you may be sorry you asked! I have to think long and hard before I hand in my list of topics ;-)

I totally agree with you regarding reading as a prelude to trying new things. I started reading Threads around issue 18 or so and I remember several articles about various aspects of patternmaking. It all sounded so foreign to me, and yet so fascinating. One day, I promised myself. Well, several years later I took my first pattern course. And then another, and another. I ended up in design school where I excelled and finished at the top of my class. You never know where you might be led when an interest is sparked by reading! (And that, in a nutshell, is my central objection to "dumbing down". Reading above your level is truly inspirational, not to mention motivational!)

Sandy

Follow your bliss ~~ Joseph Campbell
rfresia's picture

(post #31232, reply #13 of 54)

"Reading above your level is truly inspirational, not to mention motivational!"


And it's very good for the brain muscle.  I think you learn more than you realize when reading above your sewing ability and it somehow sticks so that when you see an article on a similar topic, it suddenly makes sense.  The "oh-ho!" syndrome.  Always a pleasant surprise.        rjf


 

 

SisterT's picture

(post #31232, reply #14 of 54)

I'll add my vote for keeping things at a higher level.  When I teach, I find that students conform to my lowest expectations; the challenge for me is to keep the expectations high and fight like heck to help them meet them. (So, if it is a tough concept in a Threads article, make sure you have included those step by step diagrams and photos!)


ST

CarolFresia's picture

(post #31232, reply #15 of 54)

This is clearly a group that likes a challenge! I do too, and I've always liked to read about things that were beyond my abilities...at a certain point, you suddenly realize, "Hey, I bet I could do that now!" and off you go.


Is anyone interested in tailoring, either the traditional, hand-pad-stitched way, or the speedy, fusible-interfacing way? What about heirloom sewing? These are areas we haven't ventured into lately. Do you miss them or wish for more?


Carol

karenw's picture

(post #31232, reply #16 of 54)

Re: trying a new technique/method in a child's size because it's smaller - I'm not inclined to do that to test out a technique... even when my kids were as small as those shown in the magazine... whether the technique appealed to me for a child's or adult garment I'd test it using swatches/samples/scraps etc. various ways then go for the garment in which I envisioned using it - wouldn't bother with a small size to test. 


<<<Is anyone interested in tailoring, either the traditional, hand-pad-stitched way, or the speedy, fusible-interfacing way? What about heirloom sewing? These are areas we haven't ventured into lately. Do you miss them or wish for more?>>>


Tailoring - I think an article  a year on more traditional tailoring would be plenty... the "speedy, fusible-interfacing way" may have more application.  I think there have been some good tailoring articles in Threads which I keep, the three part one on - was it an Armani style jacket? And another by two gentlemen in a business? Sorry, memory's failing me!  But I really do enjoy the "tailoring-lite" articles such as those by Fred Bloebaum on shortcut jacket linings, Shannon Gifford on underlining/lining in one step, or Sarah Veblen on sewing knit jackets... these may be applicable to "tailored look" garments rather than actual tailoring but are SO useful!


Heirloom - I would not like to see more heirloom style pieces, wearables or other.  While I appreciate the talent and skill that goes into creating these works, it seems there are excellent and plentiful resources for learning to sew this style elsewhere.


I will agree with all those who've said to keep the reading/comprehension level high.  It's great to include the Basics section, and the Tips and Questions sections are also a good resource for those with less as well as more experience.   The Masters sections may be advanced for the beginner but so many other sections are well clarified with photos, illustrations, etc.  Perhaps adding  a sidebar with a little more basic detail/background one must know first in order to master the technique being taught would aid the less experienced sewer and keep them from thinking of Threads as over their head without alienating the more advanced. 


How do others feel about Home Dec material?


Karen

JaneInKC's picture

(post #31232, reply #20 of 54)

Just want to say that I agree completely with KarenW's post: I don't try out samples of techniques, as a rule; I think one tailoring article a year is plenty; I enjoy heirloom, but don't buy Threads for that; I hope the upward level of communication and instruction will continue.


I would like to add that I am SO grateful for the online magazine index.  I'm also one who thinks of something I saw in Threads years ago that I want to apply to a current project.  (I've been a purchaser/subscriber since Issue 3!  How I would love to get my hands on those first two issues!  In moving around, I have misplaced some of my magazines, but I know I have them somewhere.)  Anyway, this week I had the bright idea of making new, sheer curtains and remember the article about the technique of Windowpane Patchwork, which I thought would be beautiful for the curtains.  Thanks to your index, I found it in Issue 90.


So I want to encourage you to do whatever it takes to produce a CD of all the back issues.  I remember this subject came up before and you, Carol, or perhaps someone else at Threads, commented on the long list of things that was holding this up.  Surely it is not an unsurmountable matter to produce the CD, though.  I would certainly purchase it if available and hope you will persevere.

Pam2's picture

(post #31232, reply #45 of 54)

yes! Please revisit the avaliblity of the past issues on CD.  I love computers and I would be very interested in having ALL MY COPYS on rom.  I have subscribed for over decade and keeping all these  magazines  around is becoming a problem. Thanks PAM2

Sashita's picture

(post #31232, reply #22 of 54)

Hi.  If I want to do home dec. I would rather buy a book on that topic than see it in Threads.


I would like to see an occasional article on tailoring, especially if there are new ways of doing things.


Sasha

rmiller's picture

(post #31232, reply #38 of 54)

It is interesting that readers do not want the magazine dumbed down.  I agree.  Yet when asked the question about tailoring articles, there was not much interest except for, as one reader put it, "tailoring-lite".  As I teach custom tailoring, I do realize that it is advanced and also that it is becoming a lost art.  I would definitely like to see more articles on it along with more articles on couture. The two are inter-connected, as much of custom tailoring involves couture sewing, which in turn can be used to improve all of our sewing projects.  Do you remember many years ago your article on Stanley Hostek?  I would love to see more articles on some of these great tailors and their methods.


I've subscribed to your magazine since your first issue, which was how long ago??  It is still the best sewing magazine on the market, and I hope it remains so and doesn't get bogged down in quilting, machine embroidery, etc.  As someone put it, there are plenty of magazines on the market for these skills, but very little for the intermediate and advanced sewer. Here I will add that I always enjoy any articles by Claire Schaeffer.


rmiller

karenw's picture

(post #31232, reply #39 of 54)

<<Yet when asked the question about tailoring articles, there was not much interest except for, as one reader put it, "tailoring-lite".  >>


I'm the one who mentioned "tailoring-lite"..... my own opinion is that some of the faster, less traditional techniques that produce tailored style clothing may have more appeal simply because they can be accomplished more easily with today's very busy lifestyles... I didn't mean to put down traditional tailoring in any way, was just thinking of what I and those I know would be more likely to do.  That said, I would prefer a more traditional tailoring article over another on home dec or machine embroidery or quilting.


What about some articles on textiles/fibers?  Their history of use?  Variations created by the same fibers and how the same raw materials produce very different fabrics appropriate for very different uses and clothing examples showing those variations?


Karen

edgy's picture

(post #31232, reply #40 of 54)

I think of the "tailoring lite" as being similar to the recent article that showed how to do pad stitching by machine as well as by hand. Then, we can choose how much time/effort to put into any one project.

Designer techiques, techniques, techniques!!! I hear everyone saying they want those. Whatever you can do -- beg, borrow or steal (well, maybe not the last), they are precious gold. When one of your contributors can get their hands on a couture garment and de-construct it for us, it's incredible.

It's the only magazine I keep. I'm a clean out kind of person and don't keep any magazines around, but Threads -- which I re-read whenever I have the urge.

Thanks for a terrific magazine,

Nancy

Iris_Colo's picture

(post #31232, reply #41 of 54)

I just received my latest subscription copy [112] of Threads and spent some time reading it last night. 


My request to the editors is to concentrate on:   



  • high-level, technical skills, absolutely NO dumbing down as mentioned earlier

  • inspirational ideas and concept pieces of clothing

  • showing/telling us about what others are sewing out there - designers and home sewers

  • concentration on one type of fabric for an issue perhaps (all silk, all velvet, all suede, all leather); these issues would become a complete reference for that topic when one decides to try it out (instead of having to dig through years of back issues for the one golden nugget pertaining to that particular fabric)

MOST OF ALL.... I want lots more of the "Delicious Details" type articles, exploring all the unique ways to adapt the standard, vanilla type patterns were seeing from the pattern makers these days.  (It seems they don't think we're up to sewing all the intricate and fabulous details that make a handmade, custom outfit and sets it apart from what's a Wal-Mart or Lord and Taylor.)  In these "Details" articles, I'd like to see actual fabric versions of the details made up side-by-side with the color, line drawings we presently get. (reference the "Draping Necklines on Commercial Patterns" article - page 55)  You could expand this topic in particular into an entire issue a year and I think you would get astoundingly favorable responses.


One other section of the magazine I would like to see expanded on is the unique, special garments featured on the back cover.  Those alone could be made into an entire issue as well.  Bringing back the way people used to make clothing and featuring what makes them so special is one of the most commendable parts of the magazine.

PattiB's picture

(post #31232, reply #42 of 54)

Amen to all of the previous messages. I credit stumbling across a copy of Threads with getting me back into sewing several years ago -- each issue is an inspiration. And I think that's the key to its appeal; we all need inspiration to keep us creative and excited about sewing. I am an intermediate sewer and love the techniques that challenge my skills (not too hard to do!). Reading about designers and their approaches is fascinating -- things I will never attempt but nevertheless enjoy reading about. I still recall the article about the Miami designer who used the new-to-me technique of creating fabric with scraps between layers of tulle and then created fabulous gowns. It's a technique that I will use someday but, even if I don't, I learned from it. Threads is my "class in my mailbox." Like others, I save every copy.

The inclusion of quilting in garments doesn't bother me (the Maia jacket in partly quilted dupioni is gorgeous) but as others have said, there are numerous quilting and machine embroidery magazines. Your inclusion of these articles as they pertain to garments is fine; I would not want to see an emphasis on them.

Keep the level high. The magazine is a visual delight: so well illustrated both with drawings and photos. More more!

Patti

tcsewhat's picture

(post #31232, reply #44 of 54)

Yes!  I would love to see more Delicious Details with real examples of how to do it yourself.  I am still drooling over a cocktail dress from the 20's that was on the back cover more than 5 years ago.  I loved the simple pleats at the hips and the fabric roses.  If I could copy that dress or even apply that technique to something...


I often see bits and pieces that I like it the details section.  A collar, a cuff, or some other detail.  A suggestion on how to draft it myself would be great.  A list of patterns that have a similar detail would be good too. With pictures of actual wearable , modern clothes.


Vintage details are great.  But not many of us have the time to search out vintage patterns, resize them and sew them with directions we may not be used to.  Tips on how to copy what we see would be perfect.

rfresia's picture

(post #31232, reply #46 of 54)

I learned tailoring the old way and enjoyed all the hand work involved but I do see that it's harder these days for working mothers to find the time to get anything done.   But I'm really responding to to your message to ask for a definition of "couture sewing".  It just occurred to me that I couldn't really define it for myself so would you tell me how you define it?  Is there a standard definition?      rjf 

 

 

rmiller's picture

(post #31232, reply #53 of 54)

I refer you to a book by Claire Shaeffer called Couture Sewing.  She defines couture very nicely and gives a history of it's beginnings.  Attention is given to every detail of the garment from the pattern to the finish.  My experience is with tailoring, but the sewing involved carries over into all construction.  Basically, it is spending the time to insure that each step in the process is done with as much perfection as possible. 


When I teach, I begin by teaching several hand sewing stitches, including buttonholes.  Much of the sewing on a jacket, for example, is done by hand.  Even the sleeves are first hand basted to insure a proper hang before they are stitched by machine.  On a man's jacket, the entire collar is sewn by hand. Buttons are never sewn on by machine, the lining is put in by hand, etc, etc.  I hope this very limited explanation is of help to you.


I do agree with you that it is harder today on working mothers to find the time to do this.  But hopefully if they find the time to learn a little of couture, it will help them achieve more professional garments. 


rmiller

sarahkayla's picture

(post #31232, reply #17 of 54)

What I'm always looking for is a new take on things... I want to see articles that take my head, unscrew it and then set it back in an entirely new way.. some threads articles that have done that in the past.... the article on pre-piecing fabric to make bias cut clothing, the ancient bird ross article on using her edging with squares techniqu, the articles on making fabric buttons, the atrticle on crocheting and knitting with metal, the article on making gold leafed fimo buttons, some of the indepth articles on designers.. like the toledos, and adrien ( I would ove an article on madame gres aka alix).


 


I loved the puzzle coat article, I loved the long piece on how to maintain and fix your machine.


What I want is an article to make me thing  "OH!!! I never thought of that!" I don't own an embroidery machine and likely never will. I'm a lousy tailor but I learn from the tailoring articles... although I don't love them.  I know much more now than i did when I started reading threads... and although I will probably never make myself a rugmaking loom with old crutches.. I like knowing about people who do.  I have found many of the issues during the past couple of years less compelling. I'm sorry that the magazine has narrowed it's focus.  I think the fact that I know more ...makes me more difficult to impress.


 


But I'm so glad that you guys are there showing up in my mailbox every month...


 


 


sarah in nyc

CarolFresia's picture

(post #31232, reply #18 of 54)

Sarah, you must have a special subscription. We send out magazines to everyone else just every OTHER month!! Gosh, I wish Threads were monthly, although it's tough enough getting it out just six times a year.


Carol

ShannonG4d's picture

(post #31232, reply #23 of 54)

Had to chime in on this one:)


I think by showing a technique ONLY on a child's garment, the viewer will at least subconsciously associate that technique with being appropriate only for children's styles.  If you do show a child's garment, I think it would be wise to show the same technique on an adult garment or some other application. 


Heirloom?  Only if it is something that hasn't been done to death in the "heirloom" magazines.  How about doing an article on using heirloom techniques in couture-level adult garments?  For instance, Chanel had a linen blouse a few years ago covered in tiny pintucks, french lace, entredeux, and hand-sewn pearls.  It was not child-like at all, and very beautiful.  De La Renta had an evening ensemble last year done in silks where the bodice was comprised of rows of puffing joined with something akin to a beading lace with ribbon....very much an adult application of what is often considered only appropriate for children.  These would be the types of articles I would think appropriate to Threads' investigation of heirloom techniques. 


I'd like to see more articles about designers, as well, and what is particular to their workrooms.  I liked reading about Geoffrey Beene's use of channel-stitching, for instance, and Scassi's under-pinnings.  Those are techniques I might not use entirely, but I can learn from the principles involved.  I'd love to learn about Ralph Rucci's use of doublecloth (those incredible intersections!), how Versace keeps those amazing gowns from falling down, and how to tell the difference between an Italian tailor's cut and an American factory cut.  I would like Threads to look behind the doors that I'll never enter.


Skill level?  Keep it high!  You don't learn to jump high fences by building the fences low:) 


Shannon Gifford


www.sensiblesewing.com