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Is there a machine for this?

Flax's picture

Just like there is a knitting maching for knitters is there a crochet machine for those who do crocheting?

I want to make a duplicate a hat that was hand crocheted by either using a crochet machine or is there a way to convert it to knitting and use a knitting machine.

Is this possible in any way???

Gloriasews's picture

(post #29353, reply #1 of 18)

I've never heard of a crocheting machine, but you could certainly knit a hat close to the look of what was crocheted - you'd have to find a stitch pattern that is similar.  It could be done on a knitting machine if you have the kind that does different stitches.  If your machine is very basic, you'd have to put the fancy stitches on the hooks by hand, so it would probably be faster just to knit the whole thing by hand.    Hopefully, others who read your request will be able to help you out here.  Good luck!


Gloria

Katina's picture

(post #29353, reply #2 of 18)

Can you post a picture of the hat? We can then get an idea of the stitch pattern.


Katina

Flax's picture

(post #29353, reply #3 of 18)

Yes, that would help, sorry.

I would like to knit or crochet it on a machine. I dont know if you can knit a circle though on a knitting machine.

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Katina's picture

(post #29353, reply #5 of 18)

Yes, you can knit a circle or tube on a knitting machine if it is a double-bed machine. This means it has two sets of needles - a front bed and a back bed.


Thanks for the pictures. Are you able to knit by hand? Is there someone who can teach you how to crochet? The stitch pattern is not difficult; there will be a little shaping involved. Rodezzy is one of our crochet go-to gals - let's see what she suggests. We'll get your hat sorted out!


Katina

Flax's picture

(post #29353, reply #6 of 18)

Thank you for your help.

I've used a knitting machine a lot and taught a class on it. But funny as it may be I really cannot knit by hand. and all I can do is a chain when it comes to crochet. My grandma crocheted but I could not catch on. I think that I was too interested in the TV program when she tried to teach me.

the top center of the hat is crocheted in a circle and worked outward. As far as I know, that cant be done on a knitting machine the sides I could knit as a tube. Oh I don't know... Maybe Rodezzy can figure it all out!

Katina's picture

(post #29353, reply #7 of 18)

You're very welcome. You would start by making a chain and joining it into a circle, then increasing at regular intervals until you have the desired circumference. Rodezzy's the one who'll explain.


Katina

Katina's picture

(post #29353, reply #8 of 18)

I put the words crochet and hat and video into Google - there are many links. Try that and see what you discover.


Katina

marymary's picture

(post #29353, reply #10 of 18)

The reviews of the book From Needles to Hook are not particularly favorable.  Apparently the title promises more than is delivered.

Flax's picture

(post #29353, reply #4 of 18)

Here's another.

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Becky-book's picture

(post #29353, reply #14 of 18)

That is a lovely hat, and no, you can not do exactly that on a machine. I have made lots of hats, by hand and machine, knit and crochet. Machine knit hats get very bunchy at the top because it is impossible to decrease on the machine the same way you can decrease (or increase) by hand. I find crochet to be easier than knitting (only a few loops to control at one time!)If you live near I would love to teach you to crochet!! Learning at a distance? I'll help all I can, but you have to want it!

Becky

Flax's picture

(post #29353, reply #15 of 18)

God bless you Becky and others,

I live in Minnesota and so I am not near you. But I would love to learn Crochet. Can it even be possible over the internet?

My friend made the hat and she loaned me the pattern but she is not exactly sure that it is the correct one. Is there a way to tell by looking at the hat in a picture and reading the pattern to tell if it is indeed the same hat?

Also if I attached the pattern she gave me could anyone tell me how long it would take a beginner to make it and how long it would take an intermediate crochet-er?


Edited 6/23/2008 11:41 pm ET by Flax

Becky-book's picture

(post #29353, reply #16 of 18)

I'll do what I can to help you.

The photo looked like a hat that would take maybe a couple days to make, depending on how much of the day is spent working on it.

Please post the pattern, I'd like to make one! And yes, reading the pattern I should be able to tell if it is the right one.

Becky


Edited 6/24/2008 8:39 am ET by Becky-book

Becky-book's picture

(post #29353, reply #17 of 18)

Learn crochet via web videos, I put "crochet how to" in my Google search and found several options. Try watching some of these and try to do it one step at a time. I have to have yarn in hand to figure some things out! I guess I am a visual and tactile learner!

Becky

marymary's picture

(post #29353, reply #9 of 18)

There is a book From Needles to Hook that tells how to convert knit patterns to crochet.  I have never used or even read this book.  It was one of those things I thought I had to have.  I don't know if it would be helpful translating crochet to knitting.  You might check your library for a copy.


Now that you have created an interest, I might just read it.

Flax's picture

(post #29353, reply #11 of 18)

Hi Marymary,

I would need to convert crochet to knitting and would need help doing this. But still if there was a way to do it on a machine that would be what I want to do.

Teaf5's picture

(post #29353, reply #12 of 18)

Once you have a disk shape for the top of the crown (can knitting machines make those?), this hat is basically a cylinder with a flared base, which you could make as a flat knitted piece that would be joined in a center back seam and then handstitched to the crown.


But this pattern is a very simple single crochet project that would take a beginner very little time or skill to make, and I made a similar one in about an hour this past winter. 


 Maybe you could trade a simple knitted garment for someone to make such a hat for you?  It might even be fun to be watching and learning while each makes something; as a crocheter, I'm frustrated by knitting and would love to find someone willing to trade a knit item!

Katina's picture

(post #29353, reply #13 of 18)

Good suggestion, Teaf5. I enjoy knitting and sewing for my friends, who shower us with baking and delicious meals. None of us set out to trade services, but it sure is a mutually beneficial arrangement.

CostumerVal's picture

(post #29353, reply #18 of 18)

Yes, you can knit that on a flat 1 bed knitting machine.   You have to short row the top in 6 segments to get it perfectly flat and round.  It works well on berets because your knitting around the head, not from top to brim.  On your hat you would have to short row the top and then hand seam it to the 'top-down' knitted crown and brim.


I have to agree with the other ladies that this hat would be much more attractive crocheted and it's very easy and quick to do.  I knitted a bunch of scarves one year and crocheted hats just like yours with the heavy Lion Brand Homespun.  I did not use a pattern,  I just put on some yarn and this is what looked right for the heavy yarn.  The nice thing about crochet is that you can make it up as you go.  Knitting needs planning.


Ch 3, sl st in last ch to make circle.  ch 2 turn.


9 DC in circle, sl st to ch 2 space.  ch 2 turn.


Make 2 DC in between every DC in the prev. row.  sl st to ch 2 space, ch 2 turn.


Make 2 DC in every other DC space in the prev row.  ""                          ""


Make 2 DC in every 3rd DC space.....                           ""                         ""


Make 2 DC in every 4th DC space..... 5th space...6th space...7th space...


On and on until it's as wide as you need.   Now your hat appears to be single crochet in worsted wieght.  My instructions will need to be modified, probably 6 sc to go in circle and only ch 1 to turn.  You don't have to turn after each row, but I can't keep my count of rows so I just do it because that's what I do.   Now, the only crochet book I have is an old Readers Digest Guide from the 70's that I found at a flea market so I can't really recommend anything, but you should find what your looking for in a public library. 


Your knitting machine book will have detailed instructions on how to short row, and of course the number of needles to use will depend on your yarn and sample gauge piece.  You'll need diameter X pie (3.14) to calculate rows on the outside needle.  The inside needle will only knit 1.  And the radius of the circle for how many needles on the bed.  I've had alot of luck with just using the radius for needles and short rowing 6 rounds, it's always flat.  I've got to work some cables into my next beret.


Val