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Old knitting pattern request

Gloriasews's picture

I am looking for a knitting pattern that was available in the late 1960s.  It featured a man's cardigan & a woman's pullover.  It was very quick to knit, as it was done with a smaller needle and a larger needle, rather than 2 same-size needles.  My friend could knit one up on a weekend (2 days) & she made 6 of them for Christmas gifts one December.  She sent me a copy of the pattern (which I can't find anywhere!!!) and, sadly, she has since passed away, so I have no way of obtaining it from her again.  Does anyone remember this pattern?

Katina's picture

Sorry - can't help with the pattern, but have you still got one of the items?


Katina

Gloriasews's picture

Thanks so much for the reply.  Unfortunately, no, I don't have either of the items, otherwise I would examine them & go from there to construct a new one.  Guess I'll keep looking.  Cherrypops came up with a website that I'll check out & see if it's there.

Katina's picture

The pattern you're looking for is an older one, from a time when the thicker yarns we're accustomed to now, weren't yet available. In my experience, two different needle sizes are used to speed up the knitting - one is a larger size than would normally be used for yarn of that weight, and the smaller needle then compensates for the overly-large stitches. If you're wanting to use that technique, I suggest you experiment with your yarn and various needle sizes until you get a fabric that pleases you, and then see if you can find a pattern to match the gauge/tension that you achieve. Or if speed is your aim, choose a yarn that typically knits up somewhere between 3 and 4.5 sts to the inch, and go! Plenty of super yarns and patterns around to choose from. If you choose the latter option, look for a yarn that's lofty, that is to say, fairly loosely spun.


Let me know if you have any questions.


Katina

Gloriasews's picture

Thanks so much for your input!  As I told Dotty, I wasn't aware of your (or her) posting until I received another today - I'll now know better to check the thread anyway, even if I'm not notified of a reply.  Again, my apologies.


Your idea is very good - I'll just try that.  The lofty yarns of today are a super idea.  In fact, I saw an afghan the other day that was knitted with large needles (it could have been with a large & smaller needle), so the stitches were very big, but the yarn was some kind of synthetic, fluffy type, which made the afghan very light, but soft & warm.  I'll try this now & aim for your stitch width, see how it looks & see what happens.  I do have the knitting book All Sweaters In Any Gauge In Any Size (I think that's the name of it - it was published in the early 1980s - I forgot I had it).  So again, thanks muchly for your thoughts.  I'll certainly ask for further advice from you it I need it.


Gloria

Cherrypops's picture

i am not a knitter, but have a look at this knitting website


http://www.knitting-crochet.com/antiqueknitting.html


scroll down to the womens sweater section and click on Long Sleeve Cable Pullover.


and also further down in Men's click on Long Sleeve Buttoned Vest Sweater w/deep v neck.


They may not be exactly what you want, but they are free and use 2 different size needles.


you never know you may find something else of interest.


cherryP

Gloriasews's picture

Thanks for the website.  I checked it out, but both patterns use the smaller needles for the ribbing & larger for the body, as is usual for sweaters.  The one I'm looking for used both sizes for the body, so I will keep looking.  You guys are great searching out sites for us & coming forth with ideas - I love Gatherings - but it's easy to spend too much time doing this at the expense of sewing & knitting, eh?   O, what the heck - it's snowing here today, so what better thing to do than check out Gatherings?


Edited 3/5/2007 12:38 pm ET by Gloriasews

Cherrypops's picture

Thanks for taking the time and looking at the site. I'm glad you understood which needles did what, as I said I'm not a knitter but great with searching.


Would you provide more details please, Was it Patons? or other. Around what year? Should find something.


Yes too much reading here, and no sewing gets done, i have to put the kitchen timer on!


Snow wonderful, we've had big thunderstorms the last few nights.


CherryP (sydney australia)

dotty's picture

Could you describe the sweater in more detail?

Gloriasews's picture

I'm so sorry I didn't reply to you - I was not notified of your posting.  I just received another posting today & found yours & a couple of others that I didn't know were there (I didn't check this thread, as I mistakenly thought that there was no input). 


Anyway, the man's sweater was the usual V-necked cardigan.  The woman's was a pullover with a high, square neckline.  There was a strip of about 1-2" wide at the bottom of the neckline that was tighter stitches (probably done with the smaller size needles - both of them this time).  The strip was narrower from the bottom of the neckline up to the shoulders & around the neck.  Surprisingly, the sweater didn't gather under the front horizontal neckline strip when the 2-different-needle stitching started.


The poster today suggested that this was "condo knitting", so I will check that out.  Thanks so much for your comments.


Gloria

leeny's picture

I think this was called "condo knitting", probably a search on Google would bring up some patterns.


Edited 9/12/2007 5:27 pm ET by leeny

Gloriasews's picture

Thanks so much for your reply!  If it hadn't been for your reply today, I wouldn't have known that there were 2 others from March that I didn't know about.


I'll check out the condo knitting shortly (once I'm finished checking out all the other threads I check all the time).  I would have never known that it was called condo knitting, but I think you're right.  Thanks again!


Gloria

starzoe's picture

Condo knitting is alternately working with a very large needle and a smaller one - this was popular in the (I think '70s) and I don't see much (or any) of it around now. Perhaps it is making a comeback.

Gloriasews's picture

I don't know if it is making a comeback, but, on Googling it yesterday as another poster suggested, there are old knitting books available for these patterns, but so far, I haven't found the particular one I was looking for.  On second thought, there are new condo patterns for scarves, so maybe it will make a comeback.  In the meantime, I will try it out on my own & see how it goes.  Thanks for your input.


Gloria

Gloriasews's picture

Thanks so much, ladies, for all your input.  Yay!  I found my old patterns last week - am overjoyed (I've been going through stuff trying to get rid of things, & lo & behold, there they were in an overlooked box).


Gloria

Cherrypops's picture

Hi Gloria, many thanks for letting us (who responded within this thread) know you found your pattern. When will you begin the cardigan? Please post a photo when it is finished. Cp

Gloriasews's picture

Hi, Anna Maree!  Sorry I put you all through looking for this, but I certainly appreciate all your kindnesses.  I'll be starting soon (maybe a pullover, instead of a cardigan) as soon as I decide which needle sizes to use - I've been auditioning them by making swatches.  Then I have to go through my yarn stash (2 large garbage bags full +) to decide on the colour.  You'll all have to be patient for the result - as I'm not a fast knitter, but I'll give it a good go.  You'll probably not see it until after Christmas, as I have some Christmas projects on the go right now.  Take care!


Gloria